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Höfn - Island
2007-05-04
Fotograf: Brynjúlfur Brynjólfsson - Se profil

Titel: Larus sp.

Beskrivelse: See more pic here http://myndir.fuglar.is/picture.view.php?picture_id=1326 http://myndir.fuglar.is/picture.view.php?picture_id=1325 http://myndir.fuglar.is/picture.view.php?picture_id=1324 http://myndir.fuglar.is/picture.view.php?picture_id=1323 http://myndir.fuglar.is/picture.view.php?picture_id=1327

Uploadet 2007-05-27 Publiceret 2007-05-27
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Brynjúlfur Brynjólfsson
28. maj 2007 kl. 19:32
I need help whith this Gull, is't possibly a Atlantic Gull L.m.atlantis ?
Klaus Malling Olsen
28. maj 2007 kl. 19:52
Probably a very dark 2 cal. year Herring, ssp.argenteus. The rump in atlantis would have broader dark pattering, and generally hindneck and flanks would again show more extensive dark pattern. The individual variation in Herring is large, so safe ID of an out of range atlantis is at best very difficult.
Ruud Altenburg
30. maj 2007 kl. 16:26
The picture in the last link obviously shows fresh second generation tertials and greater coverts, which would be rather unlikely for a Herring Gull in early May...
Jan Ingvaedt Jörgensen
30. maj 2007 kl. 17:52
Also noted the second generation tertials and some of the coverts - which as Ruud say´s would be unusual for Herring at this age and time of year - but then again perhaps not entierly impossible. It doesn´t strike you as either a michahellis or atlantis (apart from moult), atlantis for the reasons mentioned by KMO together with rather pale inner primaries. The hybrid theory comes to mind here. In the image with the LBBG scapulars looks rather pale grey. JanJ
Ruud Altenburg
30. maj 2007 kl. 20:45
IMO argenteus can be ruled out by the absence of an obvious pale window on the inner hand alone, but also shape of head and bill and of course moulted wing coverts (not replaced randomly as seen in a small portion of Herring) are contra this taxon. Some Baltic argentatus may strongly resemble YLG but the chance that such birds would reach Iceland seems very slim. I have received other images from the photographer as well. Structurally it looks like a YLG, but any replaced tertials en wing coverts are very unlikely to look this fresh in the nominate form. I have no experience with atlantis but given the resemblance to LBBG I think this could very well be one.

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